Sabbath Word(Sept.05/20) A Challenge — Christ Is God? Prove It Sabbath/Sunday- Keeping Christians!

Sabbath Day (Gen 2: 1 – 3  & Ex.20: 8 – 11)    By r. a.     Saturday, Sept.05, 2020

In Messiah’s name: “Jesus said unto her… I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God”. (Jn.20: 17) “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus;” (1Tim 2: 5)

On Aug.30/20, the Christian Post featured an article on a study that was conducted on whether or not “jesus” was God. According to the findings it was found that more than half of American adults, including 30% of evangelicals say that “Jesus isn’t God”. The study was carried out by the 2020 State of Theology survey.

I didn’t do a search for that survey to determine if their results were true or not! Nonetheless, I was totally surprised by the results they listed. Here’s why!

Nearly all the Sabbath-keeping and Sunday-keeping Christians I came across over many years proclaim that “Jesus” was/is “God”. That is, they teach that “Jesus” pre-existed as God, or as the son of God or as an angel before he became a mortal man.

The term “pre-exist” means existed before the creation of the world.

I came across only one group, Christ Fellowship Ministries, that taught Christ did not pre-exist as God. I was not affiliated with them, but they confirmed an in-depth study I did on this subject in which I proved that Christ did not pre-exist as God, as a son of God nor as an angel.

In addition, it is utterly incredible that one Sabbath-Keeping camp teaches a trinity of sorts. According to them, before the foundation (creation) of the world, there existed God the Father, God the Son and God the Mother. They claim that the “holy spirit” is the Mother! WOW! Beyond belief and then some.

I challenge the Sunday-keeping, Sabbath keeping Christians and theologians who believe that the Christ (jesus) pre-existed as a God with another God, or as an angel to prove it from the bible.

According to the principles/precepts ordained by the word of the Creator-God, the great I AM, there must be two or three witnesses before the truth of a matter can be established and settled. (See Deut.19: 15 & Matt18: 16) These precepts must be the supreme authority for one’s position on this topic.

Abiding by the above precepts/principles, here’s my challenge! List two or three scripts that you claim are proof texts that Messiah (Yahshua/jesus) pre-existed (before the foundation of the world) as God, or as God the son, or as an angel.

Lastly, the older testament (O.T.) must be one’s plumb-line for N. T. teachings/doctrine. They must be in harmony with the O. T. testimony and truth. If they do not square with the O. T., then the N.T. teaching i.e. “Messiah is God”, must be fully examined and explored.

When that is done, one will discover that Yahshua, the Messiah, did not pre-exist as a God with a God, or as an angel or as God, the son. The doctrine is unsound and baseless!

All glory, praise and honor to the Creator-God, the great I AM, in Messiah’s (Yahshua’s) name

Peace, blessings and protection to all who seek and love the truth- God’s Word (Jn.17: 17 & Ps.118: 142)

About ron abbass

Because of my last name, there are some who might think I'm a Muslim. I'm an older student of the bible and I regard myself as Christian-other. That is, I was baptized in a Torah-keeping assembly. I'm one who tries his best to follow Yayshua, the Messiah (Christ) by keeping the commandments, the dietary laws, the weekly Sabbath and the annual Sabbaths (Holy Days) instituted and ordained by the great I AM, the Creator-God of Israel. I reject the holidays and festivals invented by the Roman church. Truth-seeking is my present passion. Presently, I do a lot of research into the World Wars, the mass media, the Holocaust, Zionism, Health Issues, 9/11 and the power brokers who are behind the New World Order that is gradually being established mainly in the Western Nations. Many prognosticators (prophets) both secular and religious are warning us that we are living "On the Eve of Destruction" - the last days. There's a very good chance a nuclear tsunami will eventually visit many nations. Peace and blessings to all who love the truth and hate the lies.
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4 Responses to Sabbath Word(Sept.05/20) A Challenge — Christ Is God? Prove It Sabbath/Sunday- Keeping Christians!

  1. Popcicle says:

    The O.T. is mostly baseless and nothing can be proven. The Garden of Eden, Moses, the parting of the sea or any of the other ludicrous non scientific fantasies of that group of writings called the Old Testament cannot be proven, including that of the god of the book. The writings of earlier and older civilizations of the Sumerians are the original origins about a group of gods from which the plagiarized O.T. derives its writings.


    • ron abbass says:

      Popcicle, thanks for your comments. I don’t agree with them as you didn’t provide any sources for your beliefs. I’ll say this: only a fool doesn’t believe there is a Creator-God who can communicate with the creatures he created. Popcicle, I betcha you never read the bible, you’re just parroting others who also never read it. No offence intended. Peace and blessings to you and yours. 🙂


  2. Popcicle says:

    You are so wrong. I have read the complete bible from front to back and even studied it for years. By not believing in that fraudulent book doesn’t meant that I don’t believe in a Creator! Many people across the planet believe in a Creator and never touched that book. And belief in a Creator doesn’t automatically they believe in that same god in the bible. I would have to assemble many links to give you some “sources” which relates to my views on this issue at a later date as it would be very time consuming to do this in this comment section however just start with the Sumerians to see the plagiarism of the bible.


    • ron abbass says:

      Hi Popcicle! Thanks for your commentary – much appreciated. Tell me is there any prophecies contained in the Sumerian texts that have and will be fulfilled? Has the God, revealed in those same texts, communicated with a people? Does that same God claim he/she is the Creator of all that exists?

      Has that Creator-God displayed his power with miraculous signs and wonders to a people? What is the personal name of that Sumerian God and did that God raise anyone from the dead? Lastly, with regards to many people believing in a Creator is a good thing, for only a fool says there is no Creator-God.

      Take good care, Popcicle. Peace and blessings to you and yours.


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